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Introduction: Athens in 399 BC
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Plato: Apology
In this course, Professor Angie Hobbs (University of Sheffield) explores Plato's Apology, his account of Socrates' trial for 'corrupting the youth' and 'not believing in the gods the state believes in' in Athens in 399 BC. The course begins by considering the political climate in Athens in the early fourth century, before going through the speech section by section over the next four modules. In the sixth module, we think about the Apology as history, asking whether we can trust Plato's version of events, before moving on in the seventh module to think about the Apology as philosophy, thinking about what value the Apology holds for contemporary philosophers today. Finally, we think about the position of the Apology in Plato's overall output, particularly in relation to the other dialogues that detail the final weeks and days of Socrates' life.
Introduction: Athens in 399 BC
In this module, we discuss the political climate in Athens in 399 BC, thinking in particular about the impact of the rule of the Thirty Tyrants immediately following the Peloponnesian War (431-404 BC) as well as the tentative return to democracy in the final years of the fifth century.
Hello, I'm Angie Hobson.
00:00:02I'm the professor of the Public
00:00:04Understanding of Philosophy at Sheffield University.
00:00:05And today I'm going to give a series of talks about Plato's apology,
00:00:08in which the character of Socrates gives
00:00:13the defence speech at his famous trial in 399 BC in Athens.
00:00:17But first we need to set the scene.
00:00:22We need to look at what's been going on in Athens at the end of the fifth century.
00:00:24In the years leading up to Socrates trial. Why was Athens and such a nervy state?
00:00:28Why did it put
00:00:33a philosopher on trial?
00:00:35So I think the first thing to mention is the very long,
00:00:38brutal civil war between Athens and Sparta that had taken place
00:00:41in the final third of the fifth century BC
00:00:46and in which Athens finally lost horribly. So there's been great poverty.
00:00:49There's been famine has been plague, and finally, there's humiliation.
00:00:56As part of that conflict,
00:01:01Sparta set up an oligarchy of 30 tyrants who ruled Athens very brutally,
00:01:02and anybody who was associated with this tyranny in
00:01:09any way whatsoever was later vilified by the Athenians.
00:01:12Now, by 399,
00:01:17the 30 tyrants have gone democracy has been restored, but it's a very fragile,
00:01:20nervy democracy.
00:01:25Athens is not at ease with itself.
00:01:27There isn't the same tolerance of freedom of expression that there had been before
00:01:30the brutal war with Sparta and before the tyranny of the 30 oligarchs.
00:01:36Now, in this febrile climate, we've got Socrates.
00:01:42For many decades he's been walking around Athens barefoot,
00:01:45accosting people famous and not so famous people and interrogating them,
00:01:49cross examining them on their life, on their beliefs,
00:01:56on what they think certain virtues are.
00:02:00What is justice? What is courage? So he'll ask a general what he thinks.
00:02:03Courreges. He'll ask a politician what he thinks justice is,
00:02:08and by the series of questions and answers,
00:02:14he will try to get people to understand that
00:02:17they don't know what they thought they knew.
00:02:20They're not the wise experts they thought they were,
00:02:23that their views contradict each other, that there are holes in their beliefs.
00:02:27And
00:02:32of course, he makes many enemies in the process,
00:02:33particularly as he does this in public.
00:02:35And he can humiliate often very grand, uh,
00:02:38political figures in these public places.
00:02:42But he was, as I said, and he was tolerated for many decades.
00:02:46But now, in 400 things are getting
00:02:49much more difficult for him.
00:02:52The numbers of his enemies are rising
00:02:54amongst his associates have been many young men who have hung on his every word.
00:02:57And some of these young men have gone
00:03:03on to be associated with the oligarchical tyranny,
00:03:05the 30 tyrants.
00:03:10So though Socrates himself, there's no evidence that
00:03:11he was particularly interested in politics. In this way, there's no interest.
00:03:16There's no evidence that Socrates himself, uh,
00:03:20particularly had oligarchic sympathies,
00:03:23though he's not particularly democratic either.
00:03:26But he's associated with people who now have a bad name.
00:03:29There's also aristo phonies. The comic playwright Aristo phonies is play.
00:03:34The clouds absolutely lampoon Socrates
00:03:40and Lamb. Princeton.
00:03:45Quite an interesting way because it says, on the one hand,
00:03:46he's a useless natural philosopher.
00:03:49He studies the things in the air, the things beneath the ground,
00:03:52all these sort of useless things in the heavens and under the earth,
00:03:57in the way that people like an X cigarettes or Fails
00:04:02had been doing the philosophers we now call pre Socratic.
00:04:06Of course, they weren't called that then,
00:04:09but also aristo phonies, ridicule, Socrates for being a soft fist.
00:04:12Now the Salafists were itinerant teachers of rhetoric, of political theory,
00:04:18of philosophy.
00:04:25They walked around the Greek world from city to city city.
00:04:26They charged young men very high sums of money or, more likely,
00:04:30the fathers of young men,
00:04:35very high sums of money to learn the skills
00:04:36that would enable them to speak in the assembly,
00:04:39to speak in the law courts, to make a name for themselves in public life.
00:04:42And they got very rich in the process.
00:04:47And they taught these young men how to win an arguments.
00:04:50And the less scrupulous Salafists
00:04:54taught young men how to make even the weaker argument
00:04:57appear. The stronger argument in practise
00:05:01and therefore got sophistry a bad name. The older generation were very shocked.
00:05:04I thought this was a very immoral
00:05:10practise.
00:05:11They were very worried about what was being done to the minds of these young men.
00:05:12So if Aristotle phonies, the comic playwright portrays Socrates as a Salafist,
00:05:17then that's going to give Socrates a really bad name in the minds of the multitude.
00:05:23The people who don't study philosophy,
00:05:28who are not particularly interested in philosophy but are
00:05:31just very worried about corrupting influences on the young.
00:05:33So all
00:05:37this sort of this cauldron has been building up this boiling cauldron.
00:05:39Socrates is making more and more enemies.
00:05:44There are more and more slanders being made about him,
00:05:46and this is in a political atmosphere with where anybody with
00:05:50any associations to the oligarchic regime of the 30 tyrants,
00:05:54it seemed to be suspect.
00:05:58Anybody who asks
00:06:00any questions at all about the value of democracy, it seemed to be suspect.
00:06:02And it's in this climate that Socrates is three official accuses, uh,
00:06:08an itis speaking on behalf of the politicians.
00:06:16Malita, speaking on behalf of the poets
00:06:19and like own speaking on behalf of the orators,
00:06:22accuse him
00:06:25and say that he is corrupting the young. But he does not believe
00:06:27in the city's gods and that he is introducing new.
00:06:32They're called demonic.
00:06:36Figures will say more about that in a later section, new demonic
00:06:37beings into Athens that he worships not the traditional gods but these strange,
00:06:41demonic creatures.
00:06:48Instead,
00:06:49that's the climate
00:06:50
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Hobbs, A. (2018, August 15). Plato: Apology - Introduction: Athens in 399 BC [Video]. MASSOLIT. https://massolit.io/courses/plato-apology/the-second-speech-the-unexamined-life-is-not-worth-living
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Hobbs, A. "Plato: Apology – Introduction: Athens in 399 BC." MASSOLIT, uploaded by MASSOLIT, 15 Aug 2018, https://massolit.io/courses/plato-apology/the-second-speech-the-unexamined-life-is-not-worth-living